We first discovered this trail from the back of the St Edwards Hill on April 1st. Said you needed a permit and neither phone number worked. Decided to keep it legal so contacted someone who said all permits had been given out so we decided to wait for August. Couldnt find the gate by the water crossing by 360 so went down the trail to the far west end and went up & back down to the parking lot. Went up the hill to the fork but it was over 100 today. Very nice trail and we will attempt again soon. For solitude we didnt see even one person on the trail but you can hear 360 the whole time. May park at the top at Jester Mountain and take a 2nd car to make it all downhill each time.